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The goal of this electronics refit is to standardize the communication protocol onboard Mashnee to NMEA2000, improve reliability of instruments, integrate radar and AIS consistently, and support racing goals. To this end, we have decided that we should upgrade to a B&G system because it has more advanced sailing/racing features than other MFDs (multifunction displays) and it integrates with our current radar. We want to keep the MFD visible from the cockpit (using the existing swing-out box, ideally).  
 
The goal of this electronics refit is to standardize the communication protocol onboard Mashnee to NMEA2000, improve reliability of instruments, integrate radar and AIS consistently, and support racing goals. To this end, we have decided that we should upgrade to a B&G system because it has more advanced sailing/racing features than other MFDs (multifunction displays) and it integrates with our current radar. We want to keep the MFD visible from the cockpit (using the existing swing-out box, ideally).  
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Key components
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* B&G MFD: Make new box for 9" MFD (MFD dimensions 11.3" wide x 6.5 tall x 3.5" deep). Current MFD box (9 7/8" x 9 7/8" x 5")
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** Zeus3s :  ($2800): https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-zeus%C2%B3-s-9-multifunction-display-with-us-c-map-charts-19995752.html
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* GPS, Triducer, and wind sensor (wired versions of b&g sail performance pack):
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** Speed, depth, temperature sensor triducer ($400): https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-dst-810-thru-hull-transducer-with-depth-speed-and-temperature-20268405.html
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** GPS sensor ($300): https://www.westmarine.com/bg-zg100-gps-antenna-20535100.html
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** Wired wind sensor: ($549): https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-ws310-wind-pack-with-20-meter-cable-and-interface-19237262.html
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** Micro-c backbone kit ($60): https://www.westmarine.com/lowrance-micro-c-backbone-starter-kit-14273858.html
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** Any additional NMEA 2k cables (suggested is 1x2m and 1x5m)
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* B&G H5000 system as supplement to chartplotter
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** 1x Graphic Display ($1,199) Buy at link below. Build our own case and either hang on the companionway sliding hatch with clamps, hang at the foot of the companionway over the washboards, or hang from the cockpit locker.
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* H5000 Hercules processor:
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** Hercules ($3,999 includes H5000 Graphic Display) - integrates polars (https://www.bandg.com/bg/type/instruments/h5000base-packhercules/#prl_key_features)
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Specific tasks
 
Specific tasks
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* Measurement of MFD box
 
 
* Run NMEA 2k backbone from mast to the electronics  
 
* Run NMEA 2k backbone from mast to the electronics  
 
* Remove all other deprecated electronics wiring/equipment
 
* Remove all other deprecated electronics wiring/equipment
 
* Connect vespermarine AIS to new NMEA 2k backbone
 
* Connect vespermarine AIS to new NMEA 2k backbone
 
* Convert fluxgate compass seatalk NG to NMEA 2k. Confirm correct male/female end requirements
 
* Convert fluxgate compass seatalk NG to NMEA 2k. Confirm correct male/female end requirements
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* Check on triducer dimensions and cabling -- can we use as is or do a 1:1 swap with another triducer of same dimensions (see more below)
 
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* Is it possible to run a wired wind instrument? Seems some of the wireless options are not great (but also this isn't critical)
 
  
  
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Key components
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Major outstanding questions
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* B&G MFD: key question: can we fit a 9" MFD in the box or do we need to stick with a 7". If the latter, we can only do the Zeus 3.
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* It may be worthwhile to see if by purchasing the Raymarine Micro-talk wireless gateway ($310) https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=3800935 we can make all the new instruments and these displays just work with a Seatalkng to NMEA 2000 converter. Then we can use the existing displays as is. Otherwise:  
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**Zeus3 : ($1400)  https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028688|2028738&id=3748025
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** Zeus3s :  ($2800): https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-zeus%C2%B3-s-9-multifunction-display-with-us-c-map-charts-19995752.html
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* New speed, depth, temperature sensor triducer (?) need to see if the current one is NMEA 2k, if not: ($400) https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-dst-810-thru-hull-transducer-with-depth-speed-and-temperature-20268405.html
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* New wind sensor:
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**($800). The one I've linked includes the required bluetooth to NMEA 2k interface. However, I've seen mixed reviews on the B&G one and I'd suggest we look at alternatives.  https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=4555736
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** Would an ultrasonic one work for us?e.g. Calypso ultrasonic portable solar wind meter w/ NCP BT2000 ($724) networks the bluetooth wind sensor (and another bluetooth sensor, if desired) into NMEA 2k. https://calypsoinstruments.com/shop/product/ultrasonic-portable-solar-wind-meter-2#attr=63 + $25 mast mount: https://calypsoinstruments.com/shop/product/cmi1015-mast-mount-178#attr= 
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Wireless display options
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OTHER Option (but different system):
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* iPad mount on existing wiressless display mount
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* Sailmon wireless displays - really powerful racing features, can integrate over NMEA 2k with the below interface. It charges using a charger pad we can hook up to 12v via USB. A more expensive but more robust option; double benefit of redundant GPS signal; has IMU built in too.  
 
* Sailmon wireless displays - really powerful racing features, can integrate over NMEA 2k with the below interface. It charges using a charger pad we can hook up to 12v via USB. A more expensive but more robust option; double benefit of redundant GPS signal; has IMU built in too.  
 
** Display ($1,049): https://www.ronstan.us/marine5/product.asp?ProdNo=SM-MAX2
 
** Display ($1,049): https://www.ronstan.us/marine5/product.asp?ProdNo=SM-MAX2
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** Wireless charger ($48): https://www.ronstan.us/marine5/product.asp?ProdNo=SM-MAXCHARGE
 
** Wireless charger ($48): https://www.ronstan.us/marine5/product.asp?ProdNo=SM-MAXCHARGE
 
** Screen protector ($37): https://www.ronstan.us/marine5/product.asp?ProdNo=SM-MAXSCREEN  
 
** Screen protector ($37): https://www.ronstan.us/marine5/product.asp?ProdNo=SM-MAXSCREEN  
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** Mounting bracket: to mount on existing raymarine wireless slide piece -in the box.  
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** Mounting bracket: to mount on existing raymarine wireless slide piece -in the box.
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Other possible upgrades (I don't understand what this does, to be honest)
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* Triton edge sailing processor ($1500): https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?name=b-and-g-triton-edge-sailing-processor&path=-1|344|2028690|2028836&id=8049633
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Latest revision as of 18:01, 24 January 2023

The goal of this electronics refit is to standardize the communication protocol onboard Mashnee to NMEA2000, improve reliability of instruments, integrate radar and AIS consistently, and support racing goals. To this end, we have decided that we should upgrade to a B&G system because it has more advanced sailing/racing features than other MFDs (multifunction displays) and it integrates with our current radar. We want to keep the MFD visible from the cockpit (using the existing swing-out box, ideally).


Key components


Specific tasks

  • Run NMEA 2k backbone from mast to the electronics
  • Remove all other deprecated electronics wiring/equipment
  • Connect vespermarine AIS to new NMEA 2k backbone
  • Convert fluxgate compass seatalk NG to NMEA 2k. Confirm correct male/female end requirements


Major outstanding questions

  • It may be worthwhile to see if by purchasing the Raymarine Micro-talk wireless gateway ($310) https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=3800935 we can make all the new instruments and these displays just work with a Seatalkng to NMEA 2000 converter. Then we can use the existing displays as is. Otherwise:


OTHER Option (but different system):

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