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The goal of this electronics refit is to standardize the communication protocol onboard Mashnee to NMEA2000, improve reliability of instruments, integrate radar and AIS consistently, and support racing goals. To this end, we have decided that we should upgrade to a B&G system because it has more advanced sailing/racing features than other MFDs (multifunction displays) and it integrates with our current radar. We want to keep the MFD visible from the cockpit (using the existing swing-out box, ideally).  
 
The goal of this electronics refit is to standardize the communication protocol onboard Mashnee to NMEA2000, improve reliability of instruments, integrate radar and AIS consistently, and support racing goals. To this end, we have decided that we should upgrade to a B&G system because it has more advanced sailing/racing features than other MFDs (multifunction displays) and it integrates with our current radar. We want to keep the MFD visible from the cockpit (using the existing swing-out box, ideally).  
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Key components
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* B&G MFD: Make new box for 9" MFD (MFD dimensions 11.3" wide x 6.5 tall x 3.5" deep). Current MFD box (9 7/8" x 9 7/8" x 5")
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** Zeus3s :  ($2800): https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-zeus%C2%B3-s-9-multifunction-display-with-us-c-map-charts-19995752.html
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* GPS, Triducer, and wind sensor (wired versions of b&g sail performance pack):
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** Speed, depth, temperature sensor triducer ($400): https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-dst-810-thru-hull-transducer-with-depth-speed-and-temperature-20268405.html
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** GPS sensor ($300): https://www.westmarine.com/bg-zg100-gps-antenna-20535100.html
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** Wired wind sensor: ($549): https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-ws310-wind-pack-with-20-meter-cable-and-interface-19237262.html
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** Micro-c backbone kit ($60): https://www.westmarine.com/lowrance-micro-c-backbone-starter-kit-14273858.html
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** Any additional NMEA 2k cables (suggested is 1x2m and 1x5m)
  
 
Specific tasks
 
Specific tasks
* Measurement of MFD box (9 7/8" x 9 7/8" x 5")
 
 
* Run NMEA 2k backbone from mast to the electronics  
 
* Run NMEA 2k backbone from mast to the electronics  
 
* Remove all other deprecated electronics wiring/equipment
 
* Remove all other deprecated electronics wiring/equipment
 
* Connect vespermarine AIS to new NMEA 2k backbone
 
* Connect vespermarine AIS to new NMEA 2k backbone
 
* Convert fluxgate compass seatalk NG to NMEA 2k. Confirm correct male/female end requirements
 
* Convert fluxgate compass seatalk NG to NMEA 2k. Confirm correct male/female end requirements
* Check on triducer dimensions and cabling -- can we use as is or do a 1:1 swap with another triducer of same dimensions (see more below)
 
* Is it possible to run a wired wind instrument? Seems some of the wireless options are not great (but also this isn't critical)
 
  
 
Major outstanding questions
 
Major outstanding questions
* Zeus3S at 9" or Zeus3 at 7"?
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* Zeus3S at 9" or Zeus3 at 7"? Long-term support for Zeus3
* Cockpit displays
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* Wireless display options: it is nice to be able to have additional displays in the cockpit dedicated to speed, wind, depth in addition to the chartplotter. It would be worthwhile to see if by purchasing the Raymarine Micro-talk wireless gateway (https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=3800935) we can make all the new instruments and these displays just work with a Seatalkng to NMEA 2000 converter. Then we can use the existing displays as is. Otherwise:
**  H5000 Graphic Displays x2? If so, how to mount in cockpit + we should check with B&G but we also might need the processor for it ($$) - see below
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** iPad mount that could probably work that into the existing mounts on the bulkhead
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* iPad mount that could probably work that into the existing mounts on the bulkhead($57): https://railblazausa.com/product/railblaza-screengrabba-tablet-holder/
Key components
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* B&G H5000 system as supplement to chartplotter
* B&G MFD: key question: can we fit a 9" MFD in the box or do we need to stick with a 7". If the latter, we can only do the Zeus 3.
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** 2x Graphic Display ($1,199 x2) https://www.bandg.com/bg/type/instruments/h5000graphic-display/ How do we mount this? Can we build our own case and hang somewhere? what about data/power cable?
**Zeus3 : ($1400) https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028688|2028738&id=3748025
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** Zeus3s :  ($2800): https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-zeus%C2%B3-s-9-multifunction-display-with-us-c-map-charts-19995752.html
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* New triducer and wind sensor: Sail performance pack: ($1,599) https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-sail-performance-sensor-pack-20601076.html
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** Includes GPS antenna for B&G
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** Only downside is wireless wind. We may want to use the wired sensor and buy the other parts separately. 
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*** New speed, depth, temperature sensor triducer ($400) (existing one may work?) https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-dst-810-thru-hull-transducer-with-depth-speed-and-temperature-20268405.html
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*** new GPS sensor ($300)(existing one may work): https://www.westmarine.com/bg-zg100-gps-antenna-20535100.html
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*** New wired wind sensor: ($549): https://pro.westmarine.com/bg-ws310-wind-pack-with-20-meter-cable-and-interface-19237262.html but we may need a longer cable (it is only 65').
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Wireless display options: it is nice to be able to have additional displays in the cockpit dedicated to speed, wind, depth. The current displays have been flaky and are Raymarine.
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*H5000 system -- good for racing
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** How do we mount this? Can we build our own case? Should confirm housing is waterproof... if not need something like this.https://navpod.com/product/pp4400-c/
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** 2x Graphic Display ($1,199 x2) https://www.bandg.com/bg/type/instruments/h5000graphic-display/  
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** x1 above and X1 Race display? ($989) https://www.bandg.com/bg/type/instruments/h5000race-display/  
 
** x1 above and X1 Race display? ($989) https://www.bandg.com/bg/type/instruments/h5000race-display/  
 
** Probably need an H5000 processor:
 
** Probably need an H5000 processor:
 
*** Hydra ($2,199): https://www.bandg.com/en-au/bg/type/instruments/h5000cpu-hydra/  
 
*** Hydra ($2,199): https://www.bandg.com/en-au/bg/type/instruments/h5000cpu-hydra/  
 
*** Hercules ($3,599) - integrates polars (https://www.bandg.com/en-au/bg/type/instruments/h5000cpu-hercules/)
 
*** Hercules ($3,599) - integrates polars (https://www.bandg.com/en-au/bg/type/instruments/h5000cpu-hercules/)
 
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* iPad mount on existing wireless display mount
 
** ($57): https://railblazausa.com/product/railblaza-screengrabba-tablet-holder/
 
 
  
 
OTHER Option (but different system):
 
OTHER Option (but different system):

Revision as of 20:16, 4 January 2023

The goal of this electronics refit is to standardize the communication protocol onboard Mashnee to NMEA2000, improve reliability of instruments, integrate radar and AIS consistently, and support racing goals. To this end, we have decided that we should upgrade to a B&G system because it has more advanced sailing/racing features than other MFDs (multifunction displays) and it integrates with our current radar. We want to keep the MFD visible from the cockpit (using the existing swing-out box, ideally).


Key components

Specific tasks

  • Run NMEA 2k backbone from mast to the electronics
  • Remove all other deprecated electronics wiring/equipment
  • Connect vespermarine AIS to new NMEA 2k backbone
  • Convert fluxgate compass seatalk NG to NMEA 2k. Confirm correct male/female end requirements

Major outstanding questions

  • Zeus3S at 9" or Zeus3 at 7"? Long-term support for Zeus3
  • Wireless display options: it is nice to be able to have additional displays in the cockpit dedicated to speed, wind, depth in addition to the chartplotter. It would be worthwhile to see if by purchasing the Raymarine Micro-talk wireless gateway (https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=3800935) we can make all the new instruments and these displays just work with a Seatalkng to NMEA 2000 converter. Then we can use the existing displays as is. Otherwise:

OTHER Option (but different system):