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In October 2010, the engine would not crank sometimes.  We probably had some problems earlier, but it became obvious as the month went on.  We finally had a case where we couldn't reset a circuit breaker to fix it.  We were able to start it using a maintainer's way of cranking the engine over.
 
In October 2010, the engine would not crank sometimes.  We probably had some problems earlier, but it became obvious as the month went on.  We finally had a case where we couldn't reset a circuit breaker to fix it.  We were able to start it using a maintainer's way of cranking the engine over.
 
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'''30 Oct 2010'''<br>
 
See [[‎Engine Start CB-Oct2010-descript01|description]] of functional testing, observations, and some thoughts while under way and experiencing the problem.
 
See [[‎Engine Start CB-Oct2010-descript01|description]] of functional testing, observations, and some thoughts while under way and experiencing the problem.
 
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'''02-03 Nov 2010'''<br>
 
See [[‎Engine Start CB-Oct2010-testing02|report]] of testing and analysis of some possible failure modes.  (Unfortunately, no problems were found, and engine started fine after our two days of testing!)
 
See [[‎Engine Start CB-Oct2010-testing02|report]] of testing and analysis of some possible failure modes.  (Unfortunately, no problems were found, and engine started fine after our two days of testing!)
 
 
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* TO DO: (informal list 'til we get organized)
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'''06 Nov 2010'''<br>
** Locate replacement CB in case we find it's failing
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We have no test/work report yet (as of eve 06Nov); however, we have a verbal report:<br>
*** Have electrically equiv one aboard from West Marine - very different form-factor from original
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The CB was replaced by the new one with "wrong" form factor temporarily.<br>  Since CB is the prime suspect at this time, it must be eliminated as culprit before going forward on other analysis.  Also, most workers think the CB is indeed a likely failure point.  <br>(The author believes no more analysis/testing was performed today.  TODO: verify this statement.)
*** Thorensen (? not sure of spelling) has located one that appears to fit in current location on engine
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** Get proper version of engine wiring diagram on wiki (only have camera copy of the good one that came with N'more, whih is in the hardcopy engine tech manual),  and a nonsense one (still by Westerbeke) from another version of the engine manual.
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** Purge our referenes to the bad version of tech manual "Edition two" and make sure we're only using info from "Edition one"
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'''TO DO:''' (informal list 'til we get organized)
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* Locate replacement CB in case we find it's failing
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** Have electrically equiv one aboard from West Marine - very different form-factor from original<br>Installed it temporarily 06Nov
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** Torresen has located one that appears to fit in current location on engine<br>Volvo Penta p/n 841178, descript. FUSE, $45.79
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*** Ask Torresen why it says "FUSE"; check p/n with picture info they sent
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*** If p/n o.k., ORDER CB from Torreson/Volvo
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* Get proper version of engine wiring diagram on wiki (only have camera copy of the good one that came with N'more, wwhich is in the hardcopy engine tech manual),  and a nonsense one (still by Westerbeke) from another version of the engine manual.
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* Purge our referenes to the bad version of tech manual "Edition two" and make sure we're only using info from "Edition one"

Revision as of 22:40, 6 November 2010

Engine Starting random failure

In October 2010, the engine would not crank sometimes. We probably had some problems earlier, but it became obvious as the month went on. We finally had a case where we couldn't reset a circuit breaker to fix it. We were able to start it using a maintainer's way of cranking the engine over.

30 Oct 2010
See description of functional testing, observations, and some thoughts while under way and experiencing the problem.

02-03 Nov 2010
See report of testing and analysis of some possible failure modes. (Unfortunately, no problems were found, and engine started fine after our two days of testing!)

06 Nov 2010
We have no test/work report yet (as of eve 06Nov); however, we have a verbal report:
The CB was replaced by the new one with "wrong" form factor temporarily.
Since CB is the prime suspect at this time, it must be eliminated as culprit before going forward on other analysis. Also, most workers think the CB is indeed a likely failure point.
(The author believes no more analysis/testing was performed today. TODO: verify this statement.)

TO DO: (informal list 'til we get organized)

  • Locate replacement CB in case we find it's failing
    • Have electrically equiv one aboard from West Marine - very different form-factor from original
      Installed it temporarily 06Nov
    • Torresen has located one that appears to fit in current location on engine
      Volvo Penta p/n 841178, descript. FUSE, $45.79
      • Ask Torresen why it says "FUSE"; check p/n with picture info they sent
      • If p/n o.k., ORDER CB from Torreson/Volvo
  • Get proper version of engine wiring diagram on wiki (only have camera copy of the good one that came with N'more, wwhich is in the hardcopy engine tech manual), and a nonsense one (still by Westerbeke) from another version of the engine manual.
  • Purge our referenes to the bad version of tech manual "Edition two" and make sure we're only using info from "Edition one"